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Religion Is A Mental Illness
http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2003/04/religion-is-mental-illne...
and
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi

Religion Is A Mental Illness implanted in our people long ago by the same Bloodlines that rules and reigns in this world to day.

What Is Holy about the bible?
Anyone who allows their name to be on the below is Perverted. My Knowledge thus far is that King James was perverted, and all those who wrote the bible was too. As I discover more on this subject, I will post it.
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King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges

The KJV - A Freemason Bible


The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs.

Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.

James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.

To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.

Moriel does not, however believe that the Masonic association with the KJV or the Freemasonry of King James, founder of the Masonic Lodge system, detracts from the validity of this outdated but valid translation of the Bible. Nonetheless, it is the Freemason Bible and has been from its inception, commissioned and authorised by the same Freemason King who commissioned and authorised the Masonic Lodge structure. We can only speculate how many members of the KJV Only cult are in fact Freemasons.

(Moriel thanks Mrs Sara Robinson for providing excerpts of The Hiram Key)''

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M said:
King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges

The KJV - A Freemason Bible


The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs.

Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.

James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.

To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.

Moriel does not, however believe that the Masonic association with the KJV or the Freemasonry of King James, founder of the Masonic Lodge system, detracts from the validity of this outdated but valid translation of the Bible. Nonetheless, it is the Freemason Bible and has been from its inception, commissioned and authorised by the same Freemason King who commissioned and authorised the Masonic Lodge structure. We can only speculate how many members of the KJV Only cult are in fact Freemasons.

(Moriel thanks Mrs Sara Robinson for providing excerpts of The Hiram Key)''

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You have to understand THE KING JAMES BIBLE, and know who you are. Some times JESUS IS TALKING TO THE Jews, and other times he is talking the Gentiles. You have to know how to rightly divide and who your disciple is.!!

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You need to understand the history of the bible vs. the history of King James. Our belief does not rely on what King James believed nor his actions. King James did not write the bible, he just took what already existed and translated it stamping his name on that version. History has proven it continuously, that people sometimes use biblical scriptures to justify their own actions. For example, people that were evolved in religion throughout slavery called themselves Christians and believed that what they were during was righteous. However, real religious people (abolitionist) did not believe in slavery, so they helped slaves to escaped. That was something that could have cost them their life during that time. There were many abolitionist that were evolved with people such as Harriet Tutman, and Uncle Tom whose life was documented and led to the slaves’ freedom. They were both Christians. There are times, especially in the Old Testament where scriptures directly talked about the Jews. The Old Testament was geared more towards the Jews and the laws of the land. The New Testament focused more on divine nature and deliverance for all. That is why the Pharisees did not agree with the teaching of Jesus, and searched for ways to execute him. The Pharisees may have been equivalent to many traditional churches in this day and time. They live by certain rules and regulations, and everybody goes to hell if they do not live according to their rules and regulations. But we have to remember that Jesus did not agree with the Pharisees ways. He called them out by their name (Beelzebub, Satan, etc…) repeatedly throughout the New Testament. People say that Christians are very judgmental. According to what you just read, in some cases that is true. But I feel that most of the world is more Judgmental towards Christians which tells me that the book is not fiction because we were already warned of that through scripture. People believe that because one Christians acts a certain way that all Christians are the same way. Those same types of beliefs are what have caused African Americans to live under the horrible conditions that they live under in this country.

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I just wanna give you a great big ol kiss......my internet sevices is discontinued other wise I'd photobucket you a kiss

Spoken Word said:
You need to understand the history of the bible vs. the history of King James. Our belief does not rely on what King James believed nor his actions. King James did not write the bible, he just took what already existed and translated it stamping his name on that version. History has proven it continuously, that people sometimes use biblical scriptures to justify their own actions. For example, people that were evolved in religion throughout slavery called themselves Christians and believed that what they were during was righteous. However, real religious people (abolitionist) did not believe in slavery, so they helped slaves to escaped. That was something that could have cost them their life during that time. There were many abolitionist that were evolved with people such as Harriet Tutman, and Uncle Tom whose life was documented and led to the slaves’ freedom. They were both Christians. There are times, especially in the Old Testament where scriptures directly talked about the Jews. The Old Testament was geared more towards the Jews and the laws of the land. The New Testament focused more on divine nature and deliverance for all. That is why the Pharisees did not agree with the teaching of Jesus, and searched for ways to execute him. The Pharisees may have been equivalent to many traditional churches in this day and time. They live by certain rules and regulations, and everybody goes to hell if they do not live according to their rules and regulations. But we have to remember that Jesus did not agree with the Pharisees ways. He called them out by their name (Beelzebub, Satan, etc…) repeatedly throughout the New Testament. People say that Christians are very judgmental. According to what you just read, in some cases that is true. But I feel that most of the world is more Judgmental towards Christians which tells me that the book is not fiction because we were already warned of that through scripture. People believe that because one Christians acts a certain way that all Christians are the same way. Those same types of beliefs are what have caused African Americans to live under the horrible conditions that they live under in this country.

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2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." I'm curious to know whats your alternative to the bible? Would you have us live our lives by the contradiction of the constitution or maybe the Egyptian book of the dead? Please, why would some one living, live their life by a book of the dead? The bible says this " Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."To live any where you have to have rules and guidelines to follow. If not you would have a reckless and dangerous society. Now as for King James he didn't write the bible and for the record he was not a white man. The Jews and not the fake ones,(Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9) were people of color who were scattered all over the globe. Deu 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people,from the one end of the earth even unto the other; ........." J.A Rogers talks about Blaks being all through out europe in his book Nature Knows No Color Line vol 1. As for King James being a Mason and having sex with his mother, yeah maybe I dont know but what I do know is this. The men that he got together to translate the bible were language translators that translated the bible from Hebrew into English and from greek into English. Notice I said translate not wrote. Before this translation of the bible there where only revision of the bible. There is a differance between a revise and a translation. Revise- to read over carefully and correct, improve or update 2. to change or amend. Translate- to put into words of a different language. The real writers of the bible or the men that are in it. The patriarchs who passed down a people's history that was at first oral and then written. " Isa 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: " Psa 102:18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD." From the time of Adam to the time of John in prison on the island of Patmos in the book of revelation, the bible is a peoples history not religion. The problem our people have with the bible is that it was used against us by our captors. They put up a false image of Christ, Adam, Moses, David and so many others of our forefather. They never showed the true images according to the bible but we believed it anyway. Romans 1:25. We as a people are simple, that's why it's said if you want to hide something from a nigga put it in a book. Those that do read will read any an everything but the bible. When it comes to the most High we take somebodies word for it. Just like we listen to the so called white man tell us we black when we really many shades of brown or them calling them self white when they really a shade of red.
If the bible is not truth then how do you explain the truths in it? The first man Adam a man of color Gen 2:7 and I didn't get that from a historian I got that strait out of the bible. Scientist have said that the earth was one land mass once upon a time .Look at a map you can see this to be true. What happen to this big land mass?The flood Gen 7:11-17. What about the rainbow Gen 9:13. What about Nimrod the earths first super power? Gen 10:8-10. Nimrod the son of Cush or Kush a Cushite which would be your current day Ethiopians. What about Sodom and Gomorrah? Gen 18:20-21. This is where the word sodomy comes from, because they were doing and or having abnormal sex in that city. What about us going into captivity in Egypt? Ex 1:1-11 or the America's? Deut 28:68 what about the Spinx in Egypt? Did you know that was Joseph? He saved that land from famine Gen 41:16-42. What about the knowledge of leprosy? Lev 13: 47-49, num12:10 This is a disease that the so called white man calls vitiligo It's when your skin turns white in patches at first then all over, Michael Jackson had it. If the bible is false explain Daniel chapter 7. It gives the 4 beast or 4 major kingdoms of the earth. The Babylonians. Who whore the symbol of the griffin that they got from the Assyrians that were once in power 2kings 17:5-6. What about the Persian Med empire? which is the bear in that chapter. The leopard Alexander the Greek which conquered the know living world in just 12 years" apocrypha1st Maccabees 1:1-7. The Romans, the last beast that stomped out all the other kingdoms a.k.a America." As for the free masons using the bible, yeah they use it for information because this is their kingdom, the last one. Ish14:12-14. They have tried to be like the most High. Cloning , going to the moon, changing time dan7:24-26. The so called white man which is Esau also is Lucifer, Satan's kid Gen3:15, gen 25:22-27, Obadiah 2-5 plus 10, Romans 9:13. As much as people want to dispute whether the bible is real or not one things for sure its truth. You can't deny the truth. You may have an opinion about the truth, but your opinion is just that an opinion. Not fact.
Peace.


M said:
King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges

The KJV - A Freemason Bible


The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs.

Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.

James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.

To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.

Moriel does not, however believe that the Masonic association with the KJV or the Freemasonry of King James, founder of the Masonic Lodge system, detracts from the validity of this outdated but valid translation of the Bible. Nonetheless, it is the Freemason Bible and has been from its inception, commissioned and authorised by the same Freemason King who commissioned and authorised the Masonic Lodge structure. We can only speculate how many members of the KJV Only cult are in fact Freemasons.

(Moriel thanks Mrs Sara Robinson for providing excerpts of The Hiram Key)''

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Totally agree with you and I would have been one of those people to have helped. These people that call their self Christians, will pay for what they did......

Spoken Word said:
You need to understand the history of the bible vs. the history of King James. Our belief does not rely on what King James believed nor his actions. King James did not write the bible, he just took what already existed and translated it stamping his name on that version. History has proven it continuously, that people sometimes use biblical scriptures to justify their own actions. For example, people that were evolved in religion throughout slavery called themselves Christians and believed that what they were during was righteous. However, real religious people (abolitionist) did not believe in slavery, so they helped slaves to escaped. That was something that could have cost them their life during that time. There were many abolitionist that were evolved with people such as Harriet Tutman, and Uncle Tom whose life was documented and led to the slaves’ freedom. They were both Christians. There are times, especially in the Old Testament where scriptures directly talked about the Jews. The Old Testament was geared more towards the Jews and the laws of the land. The New Testament focused more on divine nature and deliverance for all. That is why the Pharisees did not agree with the teaching of Jesus, and searched for ways to execute him. The Pharisees may have been equivalent to many traditional churches in this day and time. They live by certain rules and regulations, and everybody goes to hell if they do not live according to their rules and regulations. But we have to remember that Jesus did not agree with the Pharisees ways. He called them out by their name (Beelzebub, Satan, etc…) repeatedly throughout the New Testament. People say that Christians are very judgmental. According to what you just read, in some cases that is true. But I feel that most of the world is more Judgmental towards Christians which tells me that the book is not fiction because we were already warned of that through scripture. People believe that because one Christians acts a certain way that all Christians are the same way. Those same types of beliefs are what have caused African Americans to live under the horrible conditions that they live under in this country.

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Ironically the perversion of 'christianuty' and 'judaism', in fact all mass creedal religion is prophesied by Jesus for these times [rev 13:3-8] , but it is the scripture which shows what a lie these religions have become .... that rather gives the Jesus of scripture credibility whereas the 'christ' of religion is an obvious fake since it does not correspond with the scripture that supposedly is the source of that image ... Jesus himself points out that this MUST be so...
As for the KJV and indeed all translations we have, they are indeed sadly corrupted by religious dogma of the translators, but we also know much of the original Hebrew , Greek , and Aramaic text from copies ... we can undo the modern lies about the scripture of the God of love, who indeed prophesies the state of our world and te coming abomination, the NWO perhaps, mankind with a single religion controlled by a world state ... the state belief will likely be called 'christianity' and the world state belief will be capitalism , autocracy camouflaged as democracy , as these already dominate the evil of this world, ensuring the destruction of our world by mankind, the so-called 'wrath of God ' [that God will not stop evil destroying itself, but will 'remove' by translation [ascendency to spirit] all 'good' men beforehand ...but there are very few good men in this world [perhaps two thousand alive at any one time according to what Jesus said...

the answer to corruption is the same with scripture as with all things, go back to the source, don't rely on what anyone says , don't rely on translations and propaganda, or hearsay.... indeed the scripture itself exhorts the saint to prove all things for themselves .... equally it is logically obvious that divided religion cannot the the one truth of the spirit [and the spirit is promised toreveal all truth to ALL who follow Jesus.... clearly then those who follow creedal modern religin almost all cannot be following Christ.... amazing easy logical proof that religion is driven by Satan, not Christ... a fact consistent with Jesus' own prophecy and that of many others before and after him...

So do not mistake the translations or religions for the real thing...

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First off why do people think King James wrote or translated the Bible? It was translated during the time of King James. He didn't translate it himself..lol Alot of people made very good points that why i didn't respond to anything but the question .

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Not quite sure anyone did suggest that King James translated the KJV himself ... but he certainly ordered the translation and made it quite clear what principles should be upheld by the translation, so in many ways it is his translation cos' he acted as censor and editor-in-chief ... the penalties for disagreeing with his interpretation , having assigned himself head of the church [in place of Christ , like so many others in history , present , and future] was death, and some indeed were prepared to die to oppose him... nevertheless , for all its thousands of flaws [e.g. see the list in the back of Robert Young's Concordance] it is at least poetic ,in the spirit of the poetry of the original , more so than most versions , and after a while one gets used to its rather sad dogma [translating 'judgement' as 'damnation' as though God prejudged issues; translating' the end of the ages' as if it never came . as if it were infinitely distant ; translating 'passover' as 'easter' in one place , getting tenses of verbs wrong, using the wrong parts of speech, misrepresenting idioms,... ]

DJ ETC said:
First off why do people think King James wrote or translated the Bible? It was translated during the time of King James. He didn't translate it himself..lol Alot of people made very good points that why i didn't respond to anything but the question .

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king james was a faggot, one of his favorite hoes william shakespear wrote the piece of shit. so the bible aint that holy when you got faggots writing it.

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